Thread:Purple133/@comment-32429852-20191122015258/@comment-961279-20200102055507

For context, I came here as part of research into his request for bureaucrat rights on Moviepedia. It stuck out for a couple of reasons.


 * 1) He first stopped by two years but had made less than 30 edits since then and there was a one year gap in them. Some of those included prior requests for admin, bureaucrat and councilor rights.
 * 2) Within minutes of his current for bureaucrat rights request, four brand new people showed up to cast votes in support that had never been to Moviepedia before. Two of them had been blocked by him on a different wiki three hours earlier, so the question was why were they voting in support? I'm not sure how Fandom staff saw it, but three of the votes were removed, with two of the accounts being identified as sockpuppets. I've closed the request.

I was aware of his habit of going from wiki to wiki to ask for rights a year ago and added information like the above on two of them so they could make informed decisions. Both denied the request, partly because of my statements.

As to why I am doing this, it's because when a person has extra rights, they have to be even more responsible for their actions than a standard user. The higher the rights, the more responsibility is required.

Looking back through his previous requests, they almost always fall into the "show up and ask for rights" category. Some came with a promise that if he was given them, he'd edit more. It's hit-or-miss whether he follows through if he does get them. For the rest, he usually leaves those wikis and doesn't go back very often or at all.

I guess you could say it's like he thinks he'll reward the wiki with being active if they give him additional rights. That's really the opposite of how it should be. You put in the effort first and you might have the opportunity to get some extra tools to work with for maintaining/cleaning up the wiki. I've seen people make thousands of edits and never once ask for extra rights.

But there are people that expect to be given additional rights for simply showing up and too often the effort required is missing. Being an admin is nice if it demonstrates you are committed to building it. It doesn't automatically carry over to other wikis. You start over and put the effort in there.

If anyone's interested in more thoughts about this, check out the "Make me a General" blog I wrote in 2017. I didn't say it in the comments, but I wrote it after a vandal took "show up and ask for rights" and turned it into admin rights abuse and promoted sockpuppets so he could vandalize the wiki even more. He happened to find a wiki where the bureaucrats approved his requests without hesitating and it took myself and another user getting Fandom staff involved to put a halt to the vandalism.