User blog comment:AMK152/IMPORTANT: ESB-SBFW relations discussion @ ESB/@comment-44816-20140603144712/@comment-25014704-20140603152413

It kinda bugs me that you address my replies broken into parts rather than as a whole. It gets kinda confusing, and it loses the point.

By "You might have good intentions, but they're not really having great results," I mean that while you're trying to help, what you're actually doing is causing more harm than your intents. Your good faith has caused more harm than help, and nothing will work until you realize that and try to change what you're doing. We're not saying that your intent is to harm the wiki, but what you've tried so far hasn't worked out that well, and we'd appreciate it if you tried something else.

I don't speak for anyone else about this, but my goal is not to make SBF die. In fact, I'm trying to save it from all the chaos that your good intentioned help has caused.

It's not really all that fair to pin this all on AMK, because Hawk and some other ESB users had quite a hand in it. I think it's time we put this chaos at an end, settle down, and discuss things calmly. It's the only way to keep SBF from going even more into the shithole than it already is.