Board Thread:Wiki Suggestions/@comment-4281586-20150308065025/@comment-4281586-20150310230830

TopherGopher wrote: Sawpog46 wrote: TopherGopher wrote: First off, what are you doing beating down something that's been decided by community consensus multiple times just because it's "primitive". Yeah, I bet you like the new Visual Editor too, don't ya? Sure, there's the option of having message walls and the visual editor, but do you ''need it? ''No. It's pointless.

Your first reason why we should use the message walls: "It's primitive."

I'm not even going to try to address logic like that.

Your reason #2: It's easier to get messages on the new message walls.

How, exactly? Just check your email every now and then. If checking your talk page is such a big deal, just get a Mail Checker extension from Google to notify you when you've got a message! If you don't have Gmail, find other alternatives, or just leave your mail open. Or just check it whenever. Who even uses talk pages/message walls that much anyway?

And then you oppose Ben's argument by saying "Talk pages also make it like Facebook"... how? Does Facebook have a talk page anything like here? H*ck no!

Look, I don't wanna come off as rude, but... no. Just no. Really, we should just close this discussion anyway since you stated that the message walls would only come into effect if no one opposed. Well, let's look here: Three opposes, all from veteran SBFW members. Is that not enough? 1. What is wrong with this community then, deciding to get rid of a tool that saved people who do not have the time to sit around on their talk walls all day.

2. What would be the point of getting an extension when with message walls you could be notified instantly?

3. If you had bothered to read my full message, I clearly stated why I said this.

4. You'd close a discussion because I shared my opinion?

5. I never asked of anybody to oppose or support what I said - this was never, in any cases, a petition. It was mostly a suggestion, since what I have seen, this wiki and its quality have gone no where in the past year.

Anything else that you'd like to argue? Or you could just, you know, NOT worry about your talk walls and just check your email every now and then.

Because people don't want message walls, and we've already debated about message walls multiple times before. We chose to use talk pages instead.

Still, Facebook doesn't have talk pages. They have closer to Message Walls... AND WE. ARE. NOT. FACEBOOK.

No, I'd close a discussion because you explicitly stated that if no one opposes, you'll see if it will go into place. Three people opposed, and all of them are veteran SBFW members. Besides, you're bashing the opinions of anyone who says "no we shouldn't have message walls".

You know, you don't have to act like you run this place. Cos you don't. At all. So what if we don't want to update to new standards? You pushing message walls on us is like us playing on a SNES and you forcing us to play a Wii U. So what if it's more "new" and "modern"... does that matter to any of us? No! We like the Wiki how it is, okay?

Anything else you'd like to try to force on us? Boy, you're hilarious. Also, I like how you keep calling the administrators here 'veterans'. Boasty much?

I'm not trying to force anything upon you. If you want your troglodyte walls, then keep em'. Also, what does email have to do with anything?

"You pushing message walls on us is like playing on a SNES and you forcing us to play Wii U." No comment.

Also, it's not bashing, it's debating. It's not my fault that you can't handle an opposite opinion.